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Mar 25 12 2:13 AM

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Which is the right photo, the headshot one?
Yep, the two b&w headshots. Those are definitely her because they're on Belfort's Facebook page. This one, too:
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Based on this pic, I obviously misidentified the woman in the Miller Lite advert before. The model in this ad with the striped bikini top might be Nadine, though. TWOWS book says that she's "the one walking through the park with the Frisbee and the dog."

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Anyone from Boardwalk Empire that could fit? Someone that would in some way be or appear to be "bigger" than Leo.
William Forsythe?

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I really like her, but I can't picture her yelling.
I've pictured her doing many things, but yelling wasn't one of them.image Sucker Punch is on HBO right now and she's been yelling for the past ten minutes. From what I can tell, she's playing an angry Nazi-zombie hunter. Okay, now she's hunting those dopey morlocks from Lord of the Rings. Now she's after Sean Connery in Dragonheart. Now it's Showgirls and Cornish is yelling at Jenna Malone and a tiny powdery Cameron Diaz impersonator. Now she's screaming hysterically and it's morphed into Mad Men. I think this film needs a 4-drink minimum. This is like McG on steroids and viagra.

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Mar 26 12 3:56 AM

Jordan's Dad

In the novel you gather that Jordan's father was free with his hands , so I agree with Will , you need someone with an intimidating physical presence.

So far I'd still go with Amber for Nadine

Like Jordan said of all the drugs he was addicted to , Nadine was the strongest .

Whatever actress is chosen she has to be able to project that same seductiveness to the movie audience .

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Mar 27 12 12:21 AM

Updated character list
(The first 7 are the largest roles, in order of size)

1. Jordan Belfort - 22-36 years-old, Jewish middle-class kid from Queens NY, founder of Stratton Oakmont, a Long Island boiler room penny stock operation
2. Danny Porush - 27-41 years-old, slick and handsome, white teeth, horned-rim glasses, faux WASP, degenerate, perverse, coke fiend, Jordan's first boss and mentor at the old and prestigious L.F. Rothschild, Jordan's eventual partner at Stratton Oakmont, bad bad bad bad bad boy
3. Nadine Caridi Belfort - aka the Duchess from Bay Ridge, 22-32 years-old, Catholic, half-Italian blonde, incredibly painfully hot, big chest, long legs, former model from Brooklyn NY, Jordan's second wife, bad bad bad bad bad girl
4. Max Belfort - aka Mad Max and Sir Max (his anglophile alter-ego), 50s, CPA, Jordan's eccentric father, dapper, tempestuous, defacto CFO and drug/sex fuhrer at Stratton Oakmont
5. Gregory Coleman - 28, FBI Special Agent, Queens College grad, Joe fucking Friday
6. Denise Lombardo Belfort - 20 years-old, Jordan's first wife, Catholic, likeable, pretty Italian hairdresser from the neighborhood
7. Patricia - 50s, Nadine's demure, proper, yet adventurous British aunt

Scott Mollen - 30 years-old, buttoned-down stockbroker/drill sergeant, one of Jordan's bosses at L.F. Rothschild
Dwayne - 35, slovenly, walrus-mustached, broker at Investor's Center, a Long Island strip mall firm

The Stratton Oakmont brokers (aka the Strattonites):
Walter Chang - Jordan's big and strong childhood friend, same age as Jordan
The Penguin - Jordan's short and pot-bellied childhood friend, same age as Jordan
Kenny Green - aka the blockhead
Andy Cohen - aka wigwam, wore a fake shiny toupee
Chris Knight - dude
Mark Hanna - public masturbator
Carrie Chodush - 30s, single mom

Todd - Jordan's lean, muscular childhood friend and adult drug-dealer, a burn-out, same age as Jordan
Carolyn - 20s, Todd's wife, stripper, Swiss blonde bombshell
Lisa Porush - Danny's wife and first cousin
Marie Hanna - Mark Hanna's wife
Mona Axelrod - 20s, Jordan's assistant at Stratton Oakmont, professional
Steve Madden - aka The Cobbler, 30s, wrumpled, thinning-hair, shoe-designer, trend-setter, business partner of Jordan, boyhood friend of Danny Porush

Leah Belfort - 50s, Jordan's typical Jewish mother, CPA
Patrick - 40s, the Belforts' frisky gay butler
Gwynne - 50s, the Belforts' cheerful southern (nurse)maid
Rocco Day - the Belforts' horny gatehouse security guard

Rick Burstein - videographer of the Belforts' wedding
Jean-Jacques Handali - 30s, Jordan's Swiss banker, suave, model-handsome
Peter Elliott - the captain of the Nadine. the Belforts' 170-foot yacht
Warren Stevens - judge on Jordan's payroll
Joe Fahmighetti - 50s, Jordan's criminal defense lawyer, Gotti suit, Gotti hair
Lee Sorkin - 40s, Jordan's securities lawyer
Roland Schaer - 40s, fat forger
Rocky Aoki - 50s, founder of Benihana
Joel Weiner - 50s, U.S. Attorney
Michelle Adelman - Assistant U.S. Attorney, bespectacled, frizzy hair
Bo Dietl as himself - 40s, private investigator

Chandler Belfort - aka Channie, Jordan & Nadine's gorgeous daughter
Carter Belfort - Jordan & Nadine's adorable baby boy

Jim Backus as himself
Natalie Schafer as herself
Steve Wynn as himself
Gene Hackman as himself

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Mar 27 12 5:38 AM

I'm not a fan of Alec Baldwin as Mad Max Belfort. Seems like lazy uninspired casting in my eyes. But then again, Wolf of Wall Street seems like uninspired Scorsese for me (not that I won't be following the film on here and be at the theater opening day) so maybe the casting is ideal.

I truly believe that Gary Oldman would be THE PERFECT casting in this part.
And if not Oldman, damnit, after his excellent work in DRIVE, Scorsese needs to work with Albert Brooks again!

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Mar 27 12 10:12 PM

Brooks would be a great and inspired choice. And I would love for Oldman to work with Scorsese one day, so it might as well start now.

I've been having a hard time trying to think of who could play the humorless Agent Coleman. It's kind of a dull and thankless role.

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Mar 27 12 11:21 PM

I guess Brooks would be alright, if only to hear him do that "Sir Max" bit.

I think it's important that the son looks like the parents a bit, so I would expect DiCaprio's looks to factor in the casting of Leah and Max.


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I've been having a hard time trying to think of who could play the humorless Agent Coleman. It's kind of a dull and thankless role.

Yes, indeed, but they've probably enhanced the part by now.

arnzilla,
I'd include Todd in the top group of roles. And maybe Handali.

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Mar 28 12 2:34 AM

For Aunt Patricia

She said she has always dreamed of one day working with Scorsese , so , maybe, she can play Nadine's proper British aunt :Angelica Houston

If not Angelica, then Helen Mirren said the highlight of winning the Oscar was when DiCaprio kissed her hand, so , she can certainly play Aunt Patricia

I think that actor from "The Descendants" , I think Arnz mentioned him, is the perfect fit for the Danny of the book

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Mar 29 12 12:40 AM

will wrote:
arnzilla,
I'd include Todd in the top group of roles. And maybe Handali.
Peanut80 wrote:
I think that actor from "The Descendants" , I think Arnz mentioned him, is the perfect fit for the Danny of the book

What about Matthew Lillard as Shaggy as Todd?
Or Jean Duwhatshisname as Handali?

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Mar 30 12 7:05 AM

will wrote:
I guess Brooks would be alright, if only to hear him do that "Sir Max" bit.

I think it's important that the son looks like the parents a bit, so I would expect DiCaprio's looks to factor in the casting of Leah and Max.
Mary Beth Hurt & Albert Brooks as Leah & Max.

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I'd go with your second choice, arnzilla. Or... how about Gaspard Ulliel for Handali?
Maybe too young.

What about Michael Pitt as Todd?

Any ideas for Denise? Emmy Rossum?

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Mar 31 12 3:08 AM

So over the past week I'v re-read the source novel and the 1st draft revision of the script to get a stronger idea of what to expect from Marty in 2013 (most likely). My views on the film have stayed the same - this is going to be a very entertaining film, easily going to be among the best released next year, but it's a lazy film on Scorsese's behalf & one he could do in his sleep. The draft of the script I read (dated March 4, 200 certainly expresses that, having skipped the more unique parts of the novel - drug rehab, a son with two holes in his heart, and Nadine being more complex than just a money grubbing golddigger- for the flashier bits but whatever, it's just an idea of where the story is today. 3 years of rewrites later. I guess the film in Scorsese'se body of work this closely resembles is Goodfellas mixed with The Aviator.
I will say I never really liked the Voiceover in the draft I read. It helped get the voice of the novel across but it feels far too derivative in a Scorsese film.

Anywho, ON TO FAN- CASTING. I only put in the roles I immediately cast off gut instinct.

1. JORDAN BELFORT: We all know this is Leonardo DiCaprio's role. I'm sure he'll be great in the role too. Honestly though I think Ryan Gosling or Joseph Gordon-Levitt could really knock this role out of the part. Should be a good DiCaprio performance though. In the end I still think Shutter Island will end up being DiCaprio's best work in a Scorsese film.

2. DANNY PORUSH: This is Michael Fassbender's role to lose. Fassbender revealed a few months ago he spoke with Scorsese about taking a role in a fillm of his and the part of Danny has been greatly expanded from the first draft. I'm almost 100% certain THIS is the role the two had talked about. Fassbender feels perfect for the role in my eyes. Only issue is Fassbender's schedule might be too packed to do this film. We'll see. Only other role I feel Scorsese could've approached Fassbender about is the lead role of Young Frank Sheeran in "The Irishman". Honestly, that would be perfect casting.

3. NADINE BELFORT: Can't beat Amber Heard. She's pure sex. And Nadine in the script seems to be pure sex personified. Can't be beat.

4. MAD MAX BELFORT: I stand by my view this should either go to A) Gary Oldman or B) Albert Brooks.

5. FBI AGENT GREGORY COLEMAN: Matt Damon. Damon is perfect at playing the squeaky clean guy. Coleman is going to be played by a movie star. I would love to see Damon in this role not just for the great Departed memories but also because I think it's a perfect role for Damon and one he could fit into his schedule. Regardless, this role is going to be a big name star.

6. DENISE BELFORT: Alison Brie. I think she'd be solid in the role. She's young, in demand, and easy to sympathize with.

7. PATRICIA: Helen Mirren? She's older than the role but could work very well. Adds a star quality.

8. SCOTT MOLLEN: Matt Ross. Ross played Glenn Odekirk in 'The Aviator' but I think could easily sell the arrogance of this small role.

9. WALTER CHANG: Benedict Wong

10. MARK HANNA: Christopher Dunham (Peter Green in Shutter Island) OR Joseph Sikora (Glen Miga - Shutter Island, Hans Schroeder - Boardwalk Empire). Keep it in the family Marty.

11. ANDY 'WIGWAM' COHEN: Corey Stoll. He played Ernest Hemingway in Woody Allen's "Midnight In Paris". Simply based off his IMDB pic he looks great for the role. Slap a mop on his head and done.

12. CHRIS KNIGHT: Dominic Cooper. Part might be too small for him.

13. KENNY GREEN: James Badge Dale. He played a similar role in "Shame". He can play broker douchebag in his sleep.

14. CARRIE CHODUSH: Nellie Sciutto. She's been in every Scorsese film exempting Hugo since The Aviator. It's a small part she could fill.

15. TODD: Logan-Marshall Green. He's going somewhere. If not him then Giovanni Ribisi, who may not be fit enough but can play this role to a T.

16. MONA AXLEROD: Nicole Beharie. I loved her in "Shame". Would be nice to see her on screen again.

17. STEVEN MADDEN: Michael Sheen. Because fuck it, I want to see Michael Sheen in a Scorsese fil.

18. JEAN-JACQUES HANDALI: Jean Dujardin. The man is French, has movie star looks and could easily be the French Wolf of Wall Street.

19. LEE SORKIN: Goran Visnjic.

20. BO DIETHL: I know the real guy shows up in films. But I almost feel this role could be the obligatory star cameo. Any big name actor who has a free day or two would be ideal for this one. Ray Winstone could work... though he's not a big name.

Anywho, I look forward to seeing who Scorsese puts into the film. While I do wish we were seeing SILENCE instead - or at least 'The Irishman' which had the much stronger emotional center in Sheeran having to kill his friend and mentor Jimmy Hoffa - it's always a pleasure to have a new Marty film on the horizon.

Quick Sidenote: Does anyone know anything about early brick sized cell phones? In the scene right before Jordan fucks Nadine his cell phone "vibrates" and the screen readout says Denise, which he puts on silence. I'm thinking that was impossible to do with early cell phones in the early 1990s. Any ideas?

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Mar 31 12 4:32 AM

I thought of Damon as well for Agent Coleman, but honestly, he'd be wasted in the role as written now. Although, as Will mentioned, the part will probably be enhanced.

I was thinking of Emma Stone for Nadine. I'm much more confident in her acting ability than I am in Amber Heard's (I heard nothing good about her in The Rum Diary), and Emma's gorgeous. However, she's more the quick witted cute girl type than the sexy blonde, so I don't know if she'd be right for the role.

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Mar 31 12 7:31 AM

EvangelionFan wrote:
3. NADINE BELFORT: Can't beat Amber Heard. She's pure sex. And Nadine in the script seems to be pure sex personified. Can't be beat.
6. DENISE BELFORT: Alison Brie. I think she'd be solid in the role. She's young, in demand, and easy to sympathize with.
I had considered Brie for Denise because of her personality. But the way you feel about Amber is the way I feel about Alison.

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Quick Sidenote: Does anyone know anything about early brick sized cell phones? In the scene right before Jordan fucks Nadine his cell phone "vibrates" and the screen readout says Denise, which he puts on silence. I'm thinking that was impossible to do with early cell phones in the early 1990s. Any ideas?
The brick phones were from the 80s. Here's a history of mass-produced mobile phones. Regardless, perhaps Jordan would be wealthy enough to have access to a cutting edge prototype.

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Mar 31 12 5:50 PM

For Denise, Natalie Portman would fit the role, but I don't think A-list actresses will fight over this part...
How about these?
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Ray Winstone would be great for Bo Dietl. Or how about John Carroll Lynch?
And for Max Belfort, I think having an English/British actor playing him would make the "Sir Max" bit less funny.

As for Aunt Patricia, how old is she supposed to be? In her late 40s-early 50s? How about Joely Richardson, Jennifer Ehle, Helen McCrory, Janet McTeer?


A few more "Nadines", selected from Maxim Hot 100 girls with acting experience:
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Sophie Monk, Lauren Storm, Brittany Snow, Leven Rambin

I'm trying to find an actress who looks like a young Charlize Theron or Cameron Diaz.


EvangelionFan,
thanks for your casting thoughts. Nice list...
As for this:

EvangelionFan wrote:
My views on the film have stayed the same - this is going to be a very entertaining film, easily going to be among the best released next year, but it's a lazy film on Scorsese's behalf & one he could do in his sleep.

I agree for the most part, but maybe Scorsese deserves an easy film at this point. After making two difficult ones (Shutter Island and Hugo) a bit of rest is perhaps required. And if rest would mean making a "lazy" film or making no film at all, then I prefer the first option, which, as you said, will most probably produce a very good, entertaining film, at the very least.

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Mar 31 12 6:18 PM

Thanks Will for the photos...FHM TOP 100 has many girls with acting experience too...U should look into it :grin:

I`m sorry but i don`t understand why this film would be a lazy and easy film for Marty.
I always thought that filmmaking is one of the most complex and difficult things in the world.
And great filmmaking needs great talents being at their best form and working as hard as possible.

No matter how good filmamaker u r, nothing is easy when it comes delivering a great piece of work.
That`s my opinion...

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Mar 31 12 7:23 PM

There's no doubt filmmaking is difficult, complex, and stressful, so maybe easy or lazy isn't the best choice of words (it's a compliment to Scorsese that he makes filmmaking seem easy at times), but I think we can agree that the film is a safer and less challenging project than something like Silence.

Whatever we think of the project, I'm pretty sure we are all anticipating it greatly regardless.

Will, who are the 3 brunettes besides Anna Kendrick?

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Mar 31 12 8:05 PM

Joe, they're Alison Brie, Felicity Jones, and Zoe Kazan.

I'm moving all my chips in front of Kazan. How was her chemistry with DiCaprio in Revolutionary Road?
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Apr 1 12 7:47 PM

thanks arnzilla,
These are better photos of Kazan. I didn't think much of her or her chemistry with DiCaprio in Revolutionary Road. And I don't think they had too many scenes together. Since we're looking at brunettes for some reason, maybe Scorsese's middle daughter could make another appearance in his film... :smile:


Also, remember this?

PK: Any more projects? Spielberg?

Josh Brolin: No. There was a movie he was producing that they offered me, no... Scorsese is doing this thing called "The Wolf of Wall Street," which I think is an amazing book about Jordan Belfort. I don't know what part would be in there because I know Leo is going to be playing Belford. I just like the story. I would love to be in it.



And I was thinking about the dad role, and I think De Niro will play him. His busy schedule is the reason why they haven't announced it yet.

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Apr 1 12 8:55 PM

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And I was thinking about the dad role, and I think De Niro will play him. His busy schedule is the reason why they haven't announced it yet.


Why do you think that? April's fool?

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Apr 1 12 11:20 PM

I meant that De Niro has a lot of films on his schedule as always, and I think they're just waiting for everything to finalize before making sure he could fit it in and then announcing it. Perhaps they'll say it at Cannes when they'll be selling the film.
The reason I think all the above is because of that Scorsese quote about wanting to make a film in 2012 with both De Niro and DiCaprio. He's half-way there, and De Niro is right for the father role.

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